The Republican Party Is Turning Into A Cult
Something strange has happened in America in the nine months since Barack Obama was elected. It has best been summarized by the comedian Bill Maher: “The Democrats have moved to the right, and the Republicans have moved to a mental hospital.”
The election of Obama – a centre-left black man – as a successor to George W. Bush has scrambled the core American right’s view of their country. In their gut, they saw the US as a white-skinned, right-wing nation forever shaped like Sarah Palin. When this image was repudiated by a majority of Americans in a massive landslide, it simply didn’t compute. How could this have happened? How could the cry of “Drill, baby, drill” have been beaten by a supposedly big government black guy? So a streak that has always been there in the American right’s world-view – to deny reality, and argue against a demonic phantasm of their own creation – has swollen. Now it is all they can see.
Since Obama’s rise, the US right has been skipping frantically from one fantasy to another, like a person in the throes of a mental breakdown. It started when they claimed he was a secret Muslim, and – at the same time – that he was a member of a black nationalist church that hated white people. Then, once these arguments were rejected and Obama won, they began to argue he was born in Kenya and secretly smuggled into the United States as a baby, and the Hawaiian authorities conspired to fake his US birth certificate. So he is ineligible to rule and the office of President should pass to… the Republican runner-up, John McCain.
These aren’t fringe phenomena: a Research 2000 poll found that a majority of Republicans and Southerners say Obama wasn’t born in the US, or aren’t sure. A steady steam of Republican congressmen have been jabbering that Obama has “questions to answer.” No amount of hard evidence – here’s his birth certificate, here’s a picture of his mother heavily pregnant in Hawaii, here’s the announcement of his birth in the local Hawaiian paper – can pierce this conviction.
This trend has reached its apotheosis this summer with the Republican Party claiming en masse that Obama wants to set up “death panels” to euthanize the old and disabled. Yes: Sarah Palin really has claimed – with a straight face – that Barack Obama wants to kill her baby.
You have to admire the audacity of the right. Here’s what’s actually happening. The US is the only major industrialized country that does not provide regular healthcare to all its citizens. Instead, they are required to provide for themselves – and 50 million people can’t afford the insurance. As a result, 18,000 US citizens die every year needlessly, because they can’t access the care they require. That’s equivalent to six 9/11s, every year, year on year. Yet the Republicans have accused the Democrats who are trying to stop all this death by extending healthcare of being “killers” – and they have successfully managed to put them on the defensive.
The Republicans want to defend the existing system, not least because they are given massive sums of money by the private medical firms who benefit from the deadly status quo. But they can’t do so honestly: some 70 percent of Americans say it is “immoral” to retain a medical system that doesn’t cover all citizens. So they have to invent lies to make any life-saving extension of healthcare sound depraved.
A few months ago, a recent board member for several private health corporations called Betsy McCaughey noticed a clause in the proposed healthcare legislation that would pay for old people to see a doctor and write a living will. They could stipulate when (if at all) they would like care to be withdrawn. It’s totally voluntary. Many people want it: I know I wouldn’t want to be kept alive for a few extra months if I was only going to be in agony and unable to speak. But McCaughey started the rumour that this was a form of euthanasia, where old people would be forced to agree to death. This was then stretched somehow to include the disabled. It was flatly untrue – but the right had their talking point, Palin declared the system “downright evil”, and they were off.
It’s been amazingly successful. Now, every conversation about healthcare has to begin with a Democrat explaining at great length that, no, they are not in favour of killing the elderly – while Republicans get away with defending a status quo that kills 18,000 people a year. The hypocrisy was starling: when Sarah Palin was Governor of Alaska, she encouraged citizens there to take out living wills. Almost all the Republicans leading the charge against “death panels” have voted for living wills in the past. But the lie has done its work: a confetti of distractions has been thrown up, and support is leaking away from the plan that would save lives.
These claims have become so detached from reality that they often seem like black comedy. The right-wing magazine US Investors’ Daily claimed that if Steven Hawking had been British, he would have been allowed to die at birth by its “socialist” healthcare system. Hawking responded was a polite cough that he is British, and “I wouldn’t be here without the NHS.” Frank Laffer, the right-wing economist lauded by David Cameron, claimed on CNN that it would be a disaster if the government got its hands on Medicare, the program providing healthcare for the elderly, paid for entirely by… the government.
This tendency to simply deny inconvenient facts and invent a fantasy-world isn’t new; it’s only becoming more heightened. It ran through the Bush years like a dash of bourbon in water. When it became clear Saddam Hussein had no Weapons of Mass Destruction, the US right simply claimed they had been shipped to Syria. When the scientific evidence for man-made global warming became unanswerable, they claimed – as one Republican congressman put it – that it was “the greatest hoax in human history”, and all the world’s climatologists were “liars”. The American media then presents itself as an umpire between “the rival sides”, as if they both had evidence behind them.
It’s a shame, because there are some areas in which a conservative philosophy -reminding us of the limits of grand human schemes, and advising caution – could be a useful corrective. But that’s not these what so-called “conservatives” are providing: instead, they are pumping up a hysterical fantasy, that is only a thin skin covering raw economic interests and base prejudices.
For many of the people at the top, this is mere cynical manipulation: one of Bush’s former advisors, David Kuo, has said the President and Karl Rove would mock evangelicals as “nuts” as soon as they left the Oval Office. But the ordinary Republican base believe it. They are being cruelly manipulated into opposing their own interests through false fears and invented demons. Last week, one of the Republicans sent to disrupt a healthcare town hall started a fight and was injured – and then complained he had no health insurance. I didn’t laugh; I wanted to weep.
Indeed, if you spend any time with American right-wingers – as I have, reporting undercover on events like the National Review cruise and the Christian Coalition Solidarity Tour of Israel – you soon find that your arguments don’t centre on philosophy. You have to concentrate on correcting basic factual errors about the real world.
They insist Europe has fallen to Islam, since Muslims immigrants are becoming a majority and are imposing sharia law. In reality, Muslims make up 3 percent of the population of Europe, and most of them oppose sharia law. They insist Franklin Roosevelt caused the Great Depression, and should have cut government spending. In reality, whenever he did cut spending – as he tried periodically throughout the 1930s – the economy began to tank. But explain this patiently – with a thousand sources – and they simply shriek that you are lying, and they know “in their heart” what is true. They insist gay marriage would cause the institution of the family to collapse. In reality, where it has already been introduced in Europe, heterosexual families continue just as before. On the list goes: evolution is a lie, a blastocyst is akin to a baby, torture produces actionable intelligence…
How do they train themselves to be so impervious to reality? It begins, I suspect, with religion. They are taught from a young age that it is good to have “faith” – which is, by definition, a belief without any evidence to back it up. You don’t have “faith” Australia exists, or fire burns: you have evidence. You only need “faith” to believe the untrue or unprovable. Indeed, they are taught that faith is the highest aspiration and most noble cause. Is it any surprise this then percolates into their political views? Faith-based thinking spreads and contaminates the rational.
Up to now, Obama has not responded well to this onslaught of unreason. He has tried to conciliate the elite economic interests, and joke about the fanatical fringe they are stirring up. He has shamefully assured the pharmaceutical companies that an expanded healthcare system will not use the power of government as a purchaser to bargain down drug prices, while wryly saying that he “doesn’t want to kill Grandma.” Rather than challenging these hard interests and bizarre fantasies aggressively, he has tried to flatter and soothe them. His healthcare plan is weaker and harder to explain as a result.
But this kind of mania can’t be co-opted: it can only by over-ruled. Sometimes in politics you will have enemies, and they must be democratically defeated. The political system cannot be gummed up by a need to reach out to the maddest people with the maddest fears. There is no way to expand healthcare without angering Big Pharma and the Republicaloons. So be it. As Arianna Huffington put it, “It is as though, at the height of the civil rights movement, you thought you had to bring together Martin Luther King and George Wallace and make them agree. It’s not how change happens.”
However strange it seems, the Republican Party really is spinning off into a bizarro-cult who believe Barack Obama is a baby-killer plotting to build death panels for the grannies of America. Their new slogan should be – shrill, baby, shrill.
Johann Hari is a writer for the Independent. To read more of his articles, click here . You can email him at johann@johannhari.com
Original Article: Johann Hari: The Republican Party Is Turning Into A Cult – The Huffington Post


























LOL, I think they have ALWAYS been a cult!
RT
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Bill Maher is an idiot. The democrats arene't mocing right, right into socialism. The deficit has tripled since Obema became president. We have a government run banking system that is giving out trillions and don;t want to tell the tax payer who they are giving it to. We have an auto industry that is run by the president, at least he wants to appoint who runs it. So now the Unions which consist of roughly 7% of workers control/own GM and are going to run it into the ground like everything else they are involved with (Airlines, baseball, etc…) The leftist dems are trying to socialize medicine when 85% of the people are happy with what they have and is going to cost trillions more, modeled after medicare that is broke and goiing to be more broke when the dems take another 500 billion out of it. What is going to happen to care when 500 billion is taken from a broken system that sole intention is health care for elderly. The trial lawyers pay the dems to keep them out of it when every expert says it can't be done without tort reform. Has a great leader even spoken of tort reform? Every black person I talk too says I am racist because I didn;t vote for a black presiodent, who care whether he is black or white or both. He is a socialist that is appointing people like Van Jones, talk about cult like radicals. Get a grip. Now the Dems are trying to invoke Kennedy (what a great American [sarcasm[) for Health care, of course the health care plan is so great but congress won't be part of it and if Kennedy was he would have a died a long time ago.
Get a Grip we are heading down a very bad path.
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wow that was alot of hot air…
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Take a look at the health care system ran by the government that is given to the Native Americans. That is how this will turn out.
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“The deficit has tripled since Obema became president.” and no more talking for you. The super duper conservatives from right always claiming fiscal responsibility yet you elected the only leader stupid enough (and only one in history) to start 2 unnecessary wars while cutting taxes. We went from having a surplus to running huge deficits on the GOP's watch. We have watched the trickle down effect work its magic by destroying our economy. Here is a nice article from a Republican Economist Bruce Bartlett that does a nice job of showing you how crappy the economic numbers really were under Bush (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/...). 85% of people are happy with what they have, way to pull numbers from imagination land. 15% of Americans aren't insured as we speak. We currently spend almost double what the leading countries do per/capita and are ranked 41st in the world as far as health care. 40% of your insurance dollar go to Administration and lobbing. We are supposed to be the greatest country in the world yet we can't make sure every American is taken care give me a break.
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Thank goodness for someone finally calling these right-wing fanatics out for what they are – uninformed cults. The Republican party has leaned so far into the realm of crazy that I believe they will have to change their party name.
And getagr1p – you are the prime example of why the republicans are so dangerous – you simply rattle off all these 'socialist agenda' blah blah fuckin blah. Do you even know what you are talking about or did you wake up in your trailer and watch msnbc? Do you not realize Bush gave us all the issues Obama is dealing with today? He has always said it will take spending money to get us out of debt, yet you still think that the deficit is 3 times as large – IT IS BECAUSE YOUR DUMBASS EX-PRESIDENT DECIDED TO TAKE A SHIT ON AMERICA YOU HICK PIECE OF SHIT!
I am so fucking sick of hearing all these negative comments about shit that is so far out there that I am surprised people are able to live at all in this country. Do you really think reforming healthcare is going to be the end of the world? Are you that ignorant? How many times does the administration have to go through it – NOBODY WITH INSURANCE WILL SE ANY DIFFERENCES – PEOPLE WITHOUT INSURANCE WILL BE THE BENEFICIARIES – yes it will cost money – but in the long run people will be healthier and we, as tax payers, won't have to pay as much down the road when it is all in place. In the short term it will cost some cash – but so does the 100billion or so in military costs – why not bitch about that – oh wait, it is Obama's fault too isn't it? It must be because he is black.
I didn't vote for Obama, but after hearing how stupid most republicans are after they lost, I am glad Obama is in office. If we had to deal with Sarah Palin for one more minute we would be in utter shambles GUARANTEED!
All republicans need to getagr1p and learn what it is to be a democratic society and not a bunch of retarded babies.
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A very good expose.
My friends and I have often marveled at the “faith before facts” crowd and wondered how these folks live in a modern world where many things they use and experience daily must contradict their worldview. It comes down to suspension of disbelief and the upholding of “necessary illusions.” That's no way to live.
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It is fairly obvious to me, and I am sure to many others following the craziness, that most of these legitimate folks are affected by the following cognitive disorders:
MOTIVATED REASONING, this allows them to ignore contrary information and develop elaborate rationalizations based on faulty information.
INFERRED JUSTIFICATION, allows them to support something they believe in strongly by working backward to find and justify information supporting it.
COGNITIVE DISSONANCE, when they are presented with information that contradicts preexisting beliefs, they try to relieve the cognitive tension by responding to the information defensively, ignore the facts, or when all else fails, they discredit the sources.
With these three tools an intelligent, moral person, who for example is anti abortion, can support a policy of torture and be convinced that President Obama is a Muslim Socialist extremist born in Kenya.
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You take some really good points, then gum it up unnecessarily by bringing religion into the mix. How you make the leap to republican malicious intent from religious faith boggles the mind.
And while I see the need for this type of exposé, I'd just like to point out that the democratic party has been known to play the same games. Its not right or left, its wrong wrong wrong, and its the game of politics. What have we let this great nation become?
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Snowspeeder: Don't be an idiot. They're not “Americans” they're a colonized minority, we've always treated them like crap. Its par for the course. (Yes, that's irony- take a history class, and you'll understand why you can't use them as an example.)
Now then, my friend- who isn't rich by any means- went to England last year and she brought her mother along. Her mother is pretty old and got deathly ill while they were at their hotel (again, not a fancy place.) They asked at the front desk what they should do, and a doctor came TO THE ROOM to personally attend to her sick mother. They got medication she needed, and the whole affair cost her about…$60- medicine included. Are you people telling me we can't get our crap as together as England? I've paid $180 a month, for just myself, for over a decade(well, actually its gotten more expensive- it didn't start out at $180 a month, its pretty much gone up EVERY YEAR.) …why the hell can't I get care when I need it like a tourist in London? And- I just found an old bill in my file- Why did I have to pay extra for a basic exam? I eat healthy, I don't smoke, I exercise and I almost never, ever, ever need any medical help, so why do I have to jump through all their hoops and pay even more when I DO need help? It is ridiculous, and getting worse every year, or do you not notice this?
Its a shame, but apparently you folks like it. You must all work for the pharmaceutical companies, right?
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I really hope you Americans spiral into civil war over this. The world needs less of you.
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The Democrat Party, as evidenced by Obama, Reid and Pelosi, has moved very far to the left. The Republican Party, as evidenced by its leaders, has moved to the center. The American People are much more conservative than either party. Neither party speaks for the people right now: not that they really care, it seems.
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Mr Hari you are both misinformed and naive. To say that Obama won by a massive landslide is simply not true. He got 52.9% of the popular vote while MCcain got 45.7% and 1.4% voting for other candidates. Hardly a massive landslide.
And to say that Obama is centre-left is is ridiculous also. He had one of the most liberal voting records of anyone in congress.
I am a registered Republican who is fiscally conservative but socially very liberal. And I vote accordingly. I support health care reform, same sex marriage, and I am pro-choice.
You, Mr Hari, are no better than the Republicans you criticize.
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Dumb. Faith and reason are incompatible. They contradict one another. Faith that Google will return useful results? No one has faith in Google. People use Google hundreds of times a day. Experience tells us that Google will find results, not faith. Faith has never been used for good in this world. Faith brought down the World Trade Center; faith led to the genocides of the Holocaust, the Crusades, and the Second Sudanese Civil War; faith murdered Dr. George Tiller; faith hinders the spread of science and reason in the classroom; faith prevents sick children from receiving the urgent medical care they need because God and prayer will save them; faith has turned women into second-class citizens in the Muslim world; faith has spread intolerance and hate toward homosexuals; faith is the reason that the interests of blastocysts supersede the interests of a child with a spinal cord injury. I could go on, but I think you get my point.
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bush wiped his ass with the constitution, him and his little friend turd blossom
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getagr1p, sober up next time before trying to comment on anything, ever again. We thank you.
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@Ochomz
I think the description of a “landslide” victory is relativistic. There was a 7.6% difference between the candidates. You stated this does not represent a massive landslide, therefore I assume you are an expert on U.S. Presidential History. How does this compare to past elections?
I am not familiar with your basis for writing that Obama had one of the most liberal voting records in congress. What are your sources?
How is a well written opinion article no better than individuals who believe that the Government must stay out of Medicare?
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@Caden
You are obviously one of those “intellectules” because you articulate your thoughts so very well.
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faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for.. right out of the bible.. faith much like hope is useless until acted upon. there is a word used when one can prove something they have faith in .. its called knowledge.
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Actually, I think you're a Republican because you're ignorant and almost illiterate, proving the premise of the article.
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@viewfromthewest
365 to 173 is a landslide. The popular vote was not as dramatic, but it wasn't even really a close result where it counts.
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It's a REAL shame that we Americans don't have more of a variety when choosing political parties. Neither the overly-liberal Dems nor the wingnut Republicans have any idea what they're doing. It's incredibly frustrating to know that, at least right now, a vote for a third-party is a wasted vote!
http://vegaspirate.blogspot.com/2009/08/i-want-...
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whoever wrote this is a complete fool… International healthcare will bring more danger, people work for their money so they should have the right to get healthcare as soon as possible compared to lazy people who don't have insurance, in America every one has a chance to do whatever they want, it is their problem if they lead to a path to no-where and work at McDonald's…
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mattissocool = mattisafool.
Private insurance carriers can and do drop insured people on a daily basis with absolutely no reason other than the bottom line. Reaching your “lifetime” limit is much easier than you imagine. Then try getting another carrier with a pre-existing condition.
You can chew on those facts whenever you get off your parents plan and enter the real world of healthcare.
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mattissocool = mattisafool.
Private insurance carriers can and do drop insured people on a daily basis with absolutely no reason other than the bottom line. Reaching your “lifetime” limit is much easier than you imagine. Then try getting another carrier with a pre-existing condition.
You can chew on those facts whenever you get off your parents plan and enter the real world of healthcare.
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Yet another article doing nothing but bitching about a few uninformed individuals and generalizing that because one right-wing nut-job says something then it must be the viewpoint of all Republicans. Perhaps there would be a greater sense of unity if people didn't complain all the time and instead looked towards a compromise instead of generalizing and wasting time with random accusations.
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Haha, international healthcare eh? Yeah i agree, if the US tried to insure the world then some logistical problems would be presented, to say the least.
My kingdom for a conservative with a respectable argument, or at least understands what the democrats are trying to accomplish.
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I agree on the lack of discourse. The problem I see is that the democrats have made the proposals and the only alternative viewpoints from republicans appear to involve a complete obfuscation of the situation (ala death panels, euthanasia, the recent RNC constituent letter accusing democrats of wanting to deny healthcare to republicans, etc). If, as a republican, you have some valuable ideas to put forth then kudos – it's unfortunate the leaders of your party don't. This is going to blow up in the republican's face and cost them power for decades to come.
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This is one of the most well written articles I have read in a long time. Hari makes valid points and backs those points up with facts and evidence. In response to previous comments, no not everyone has the chance to get insurance. In fact did you know that currently an insurance company can and will drop or deny a woman coverage because she is pregnant? They consider it a “pre-existing condition” and although this is technically illegal there are many loopholes that allow this to happen. I learned this the hard way. Am I lazy? Absolutely not. I am 24 years old, have a college degree, a full time job, and a baby on the way. My husband is a graduate student and can't work a full time job. I ask for no handouts but I don't think it's asking too much that the insurance company that I have given my hard earned money to, provide the coverage I was promised. I also don't think it is fair to my baby that because of this situation, I am not able to afford the pre-natal care that is crucial to healthy babies development. I applaud President Obama for making health care (which is a basic human right) available to those who need it the most.
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look, it's not so complicated that requires detailed analisis: most people are IDIOTS, it's as simple as that
when you show an idiot proof that he's wrong about something, he's not going to admit it, they'll say you're wrong and the next time he talks about the issue with someone else what you told him will have already left his mind
smart people or at least non-morons, enter these arguments under the assumption that everyone, no matter what political views he or she has, will want what's best for himself, his family and his countrymen, but it's not so, idiots put being right before anything else
even if you somehow manage to make an idiot understand that health insurance is a basic human right and what Obama wants it's on everyone's best interest (except HMOs) they would rather not have health insurance and die needlessly than have to admit that someone they think to be a muslim, a socialist, kenyan, elitist, elderly killer, nazi and black knows what's best for them better than themselves
but most idiots will never undertand it, so it doesn't matter anyway
most of these article is way too obvious, in other words: you're preaching to the chorus, if you have the capacity to understand this then you know it already, if you don't then won't understand most of what it's written
but what I do want to point out about this is what you said about real conservatives, the GOP has none, at least none that it's well known, conservative thinking can be useful in some situations but the GOP representatives are just corrupt at best or criminals at worst (or even war criminals), they only care about money and themselves
edit: on second thought maybe Ron Paul is a real conservative but I'm not sure
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Right. So if I'm a college student coming from a family of below average wealth and I happen to have the misfortune of developing a brain tumor, then I guess I'm getting what I deserve for being lazy.
I actually know someone who this happened to earlier this year. On Sunday I saw him and he was complaining of a headache. On Tuesday he went to the doctor about it. On Thursday he was getting brain surgery. Oh and he lives in Canada.
But wait, public healthcare doesn't work! They have long waits and low quality care. Right, tell that to my friend who was extremely grateful for the free-of-charge care he received.
Get a grip.
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Did any of you actually read the entire article before you disagreed. There isn't really anything he said that can be disputed (with evidence.)
My family, including myself, has voted Republican almost exclusively since WWII. The Republican party of today, however, has become nothing more than an embarrasing joke on America in the national stage.
God save us!
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“Flatter and soothe” strikes me as at least an understandable response, as calling a duck a duck is inherently offensive, no matter how fore-head slappingly obvious that it is so. In all fairness, when Obama talked of Americans clinging to their guns and religion, he didn't here the end of it.
Americans have this sort of tyrony of polite. Even peppered with compliments and cautious qualifyings, indicating your interest in debating this civilly, try to explain how flippen divorced from reality someone's comments are, and you'll quickly find yourself censored or accused of arrogance and intimidation.
We're supposed to politely acknowledge and respond to the same kind of antics from adults that we'd smack our kids across the face for, or otherwise have them taken to the nearest psychiatric facility for immediate treatment.
Part of the problem is that talking politics is sort of taboo in America…. understandable at the shop, but elsewhere?? Authoritarian states aside, in the rest of the world politics is the all purpose small talk, and of course you quickly become a bit of a social pariah if everything boils down to a few simplistically absolutist and paranoid notions (e.g. government BAD BAD BAD).
We Americans need to simply start talking politics, and gain a sort of maturity about it such that it more closely resembles mature dialogue, as opposed to brow beating, proselytizing, and that curiously effortless way we humor willful ignorance. In other words, a sort of social revolution is needed in which we're less concerned about hiding our shock and concern when our red-neck cousin asserts some notion so asinine that we wonder if we're really adopted, and instead we ask him/her how, in the name of common sense and all that is strikingly self-evident, do they arrive at such a vapid conclusion.
Back to Obama, we can hardly expect him to facilitate this sort of social revolution when he's tasked with cleaning up the mess he was left with and making good on his promises. However, the fact that he is in most peoples eyes a wise person, yet occasionally slips up and hints at how pathetic the notions of the opposition are, might actually do more to make things right than his back-peddling apologies.
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I'm sorry but where in the Constitution does it say that the government should have the right to take away the money I have earned for my family and give it to people? Why is it the government's responsibility to take care of me? It isn't. Also illegal aliens are included in those “50 million uninsured Americans.” And universal health care is not working in the countries it has been implemented in. Why is it that most people come to this country for health care instead of their own countries with glorious universal health care? Let's stop asking the government to provide so much for us. Or better yet let's stop asking everyone who is paying taxes to take care of us. I happen to think that I can take better careof myself than the government.
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Obama isn't even black you dipshit. That alone makes this article not credible. Nice try though.
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You are the typical constitutional scholar to which this article is referring.
First off the US Constitution allows congress to tax the people several different times.
The Sixteenth Amendment (Amendment XVI) to the United States Constitution: The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration. http://is.gd/2Kpxs
The Congress shall have power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises… but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States…
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers…
No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.
Article I, § 8, Clause 1 grants to the Congress the power to impose taxes, but requires excise taxes to be geographically uniform.
The Constitution states that all direct taxes are required to be apportioned among the states according to population. – http://is.gd/2KpQf
Our taxes pay for the military, police, fire departments, highways, most schools, many hospitals, many transportation sources, CDC, FBI, CIA, and many other services which I'm sure you use on a daily basis.
Please get your facts straight before lecturing others on the Constitution or our government.
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Damn good article.
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Universal Health Care, (and other socialist systems) work wonders in countries that have them. Take a look at the Human Development Index sometime instead of Fox News. Who's always on top with the trinity of Health+Life Expectancy, Literacy+Education, and GDP per Capita?
That's correct. Countries with socialist tendencies.
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I agree with the whole thrust of this article, but one small factual error:
>In reality, where [gay marriage] has already been introduced
>in Europe, heterosexual families continue just as before.
In the case of Sweden, heterosexual marriage has declined; more such couples simply cohabitate.
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Foolish comment. I am from Norway, and can say Universal Healthcare absolutely do work! And yes – it does work for everyone including illegal immigrants. When you are under an major emergency it simply does not make any sense to send the papers to an insurance company to start looking through if you are sufficiently covered to have the emergency operation necessary or not – every second counts! I would never ever imagine to go to the USA for any operation – its flat out ridiculous! The current US system has a death panel of lawyers who sentence 6 times all the victims of 9/11 every year. Go ahead and be selfish – just remember that you are part of that death panel voting to condemn 6 times all the dead people during 9/11 every year by doing so.
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Want Republican verification of the cult description, just ask Michele Bachmann.
“This cannot pass. What we have to do today is make a covenant, to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing. This will not pass. We will do whatever it takes to make sure this doesn’t pass.”
She’s talking about health care reform.
http://is.gd/2KrZD
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Republicans are going nuts
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what about the stupid republicans in Texas talking about Secessionm from the US
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President Obama promised change and it has appeared. The left wing fanatical nuts are now the right wing fanatical nuts.
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wtf, is that all you can come up with? Or did you mean to include a /s?
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In Response to WMK
” I'm sorry but where in the Constitution does it say that the government should have the right to take away the money I have earned for my family and give it to people?”
In the amendment involving income tax. And the fact that congress has the power to “lay and collect taxes” (Article 1 Section 8)
Umm no it wont cover illegal immigrants. Not anymore than the taxpayers do now anyway, http://www.newsweek.com/id/214254
” And universal health care is not working in the countries it has been implemented in”
We spend around 6,000 dollars a year per person on healthcare and are ranked 37th in the world. France spends half that amount on their UNIVERSAL system and is ranked number one. (By the world health organization)
“Or better yet let's stop asking everyone who is paying taxes to take care of us.”
SO I'm assuming you've never used a highway, eaten FDA approved food, called the police or firefighters, and never had your water treated at a government water treatment facility. And, you always surely use FedEx and UPS since USPS is an independent GOVERNMENT agency.
If however you HAVE done any of these things, then I am paying taxes to help take care of you, as well as myself. And thats ok with me because it is a common good. Just like healthcare.
Facts please, I almost think you are someone just doing this to mock the neo-cons.
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where in the constitution…etc.
You are kidding, right?
Amendment XVI
“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”
I mean Jesus, try actually READING the most important political document in human history, OKAY????
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So what you're saying is that millions of people should go without health care because of illegal aliens.
You DO understand just how morally bankrupt that is, right?
Universal health care does, is and will continue to be a vast and unadulterated success in ALL countries that have it.
Most people DO NOT come to the USA for health care. Most STAY HOME and get their health care through their government-run system. It's CHEAPER. If you are talking about Canadians, yes, some do come to the USA for care: those who do not want to wait for ELECTIVE SURGERY and can afford the massive medical bills – that's surgery for non-life-threatening reasons – and those whom the CANADIAN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM SENDS TO AMERICAN HOSPITALS, to get specialized or emergency care and treatment when they cannot get into a Canadian hospital immediately.
Of course, the latter have all of their medical bills paid for by that same government.
Ah, and MEDICARE doesn't work either, right? Medicare spends 2 cents out of every dollar on administration while private insurance spends 12 cents out of every dollar….but Medicare is useless, right?
WRONG.
DUH.
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Don't be dense.
Its INSURANCE.
Its designed to get other people to pay for one's health care and medical treatments. That is the POINT, for God's good sake.
It isn't an entitlement. It is a financial instrument that creates a vast pool of money that those who have need of can use because they paid into it.
Someone who is not an idiot must surely understand this simple point.
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Not only is Hawkins British, he also was far from disabled at birth. Not until he started his second degree at Cambridge (aged 21) did he show signs of motor neuron disease. To top it off, if he wasn't cared for by the NHS he would have most certainly died as a young man…… By now though I am sure he can pay for as much private health care as could ever need.
Free health care for all should be a right not a privilege. I am appalled to be reading about the lunacy and lies being forced upon the American public. I can not emphasize enough the benefits of a National Health Service.
The thought of dyeing an untimely death simply because you cannot afford health insurance is sickening. I for sure would be dead, bankrupt or just hideously deformed (think Elephant Man’s body double) by now if it wasn’t for the NHS. Yes, it’s not always perfect, but if you turn up to the doctor’s or hospital you are never turned away, especially when you have an emergency.
I am not against private health care, especially if you travel. We still have it here in the UK too, where you can have silk sheets on your medibed or receive a more privileged experience when getting your boob job. I just don’t see the point… you can get free boob jobs on the NHS! For medical reasons only though…… obviously.
The NHS provides excellent care for ALL the British public; Florists, butchers, CEOs, school teachers, lawyers, hippy waifs, Nazi pricks, football hooligans, traffic wardens, astrophysicists, illegal immigrants, and even Yanks on holiday….. With or without cover!
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Excellent article. The GOP has fled the marketplace of ideas and arrived instead at Neverland. An open debate about what is best for the country…..HA. Instead they call Obama a muslim, a foreigner, a death panel advocate, a socialst,…….the list will continue ad infinitum.
The histrionics of the right are only outdone by the left's inability to effectively respond. The political clock is running. The midterm elections are around the corner. The leaders on the left need to grow a set of stones, LEAD, and treat the right like the delusional crazy drunken aunt they are acting like.
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I e-mailed this article to family and friends. However, I removed the religious paragraph — while it may have quite a bit of truth to it, it damages the credibility (to many readers) of an otherwise strongly argued case.
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Wow, what a bunch of arrogant drivel. and arent Obamas approval ratings down to around 40%? from 70%? No wonder republicans went crazy; the fact that the majority of people would vote for this guy (many of which never cared to learn or understand his policies) would make alot of people lose faith in their own country.
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Please remove head from sand.
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I really used to have so much respect for the republican party before the elections. The fact that many educated individuals are shouting things ludicrous enough to compare to the catholic church during the middle ages makes me feel a little depressed.
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Democrats: Just as nasty as they were for 8 years to Bush… the hypocrasy in this article is huge – oh my goodness, what a bitter, misconceptional, trashy little mess of an article!
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Hyeah, riiiight. Accuse the opposition of your own worst crimes. That way, when they protest rationally, it looks like recrimination.
Shout all you want at your padded cell. The only ones listening are your cellmates.
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and your confusing yourself with someone who can think
human rights are provide by the laws of any country, there the same on USA, Somalia and the middle of the Atlantic
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I would just like to say that this article is completely ridiculous and I completely disagree with just about everything written. If you want to discuss it…steviek59@comcast.net.
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Good Grief. I am grateful that I don't know any posters who write such things as “I like this article” — What article sweeties? That was just a very juvenile & un-true whine by a childish ranter who doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. Like it? Good gad, what a shining example of the far left mentality in this country…
… no wonder Obama’s popularity is drastically dropping. 1 in 6 people who voted for Obama don’t support him. His decline in popularity (if it drops just another 2 points) will make his fall the fastest drop since world war two for a president. Just 1 in 3 like his health plan and I suspect they are closed minded fools who, like this author, don’t really care for the facts or the truth or the reality or even the USA we all love – but rather care more about their party winning.
Pathetic Juvenile Rants.
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I am indifferent to the differences between the Republican and Democratic parties. They are two organized crime families with different names (do I really need to cite examples for you?).
I will not attack personally someone that disagrees with my opinion or refuses to spell check. We live in a serious time. Wealthy, narrow interests are trying to divide us. Do not play their game.
We can agree that there are things in life that are more important than US dollars, more important than even REAL money for that matter, including but not limited to: liberty, justice, and good health, just to name a few.
Can we agree, at least, on that?
The disagreements seem to hover around who is in the best position to protect these blessings and oversee the administration of the benefits these blessings bring to our lives.
If you think it is the “free market” (run by corporations), you may want to have your head examined, at a private clinic of course, if you can afford it.
If you think it is the government (run by corporations), you may want to pinch yourself because you are dreaming. It is a decent and noble dream, but as I said we are living in a serious time. We need you to wake up. Remember that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Where does that leave us? It leaves us. We are the stewards of the promises of liberty, justice, and lives of freedom and good health. Do not shrink from the duty that we all share. Do not fool yourself that corporations or the crippled giant that is our government will support us. They will not.
Prediction: A government health-blah scheme will be realized in the next several months. It will not address the root causes of the problems we face, but it will enrich the corporations that wrote it. Demopublicans will blame their failure to include a public “option” on the Republicrats (even though Dems control the legislative and executive branches). Republicrats will congratulate themselves for having succeeded in doing absolutely nothing. I will take on a third job.
I want the Bills of Rights restored (now!) before I trust the government to do anything.
Amendment I: under attack
Amendment II: mocked and under attack
Amendment III through Amendment X: missing in action
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Well, I guess I am crazy now… I wasn't aware that I was… Thank you for opening my eyes. Now I can finally listen to Obama and pretend what he says makes sense!
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Keep whining, republicaloons. I love it!
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For those people who are defending Republicanism… your party is one big daisy chain of butt-eaters who are too drunk off the funk to realizing they've got feces all over their faces… Seriously, where does your party go from here when it is so willing to brand itself as “anti-healthcare” “anti-education” “anti-tolerance/diversity” “racist” “sexist” “homophobic” “religiously fanatical” “classist” “angry” “fascist” “torture-sympathizing” and ultimately “hypocritical”. There are no real values there. Your party is dead, and you are worshipping its demons.
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As far as who is going to pay for what, please don't brandish your lack of knowledge of the contents of the bill as an attack, it makes you look ignorant.
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“It has best been summarized by the comedian Bill Maher…”
Nice reference. A comedian. Someone whose occupation in no way contributes to society.
“The election of Obama — a centre-left black man — as a successor to George W. Bush has scrambled the core American right’s view of their country.”
Actually, he is a far left Liberal half-black half-white man pushing socialism and “spreading the wealth around” in a free nation.
“In their gut, they saw the US as a white-skinned, right-wing nation forever shaped like Sarah Palin.”
Still trying to attack her, eh? There are plenty of non-white Republicans in this nation also, but thanks for the overgeneralizing. And the people (R or D) who pay attention at all know that the country is split rather evenly as far as political party affiliation.
“When this image was repudiated by a majority of Americans in a massive landslide, it simply didn’t compute.”
The popular vote resulted with 69,457,000 for Obama and 59,934,814 for McCain. Thank you ACORN for your involvement on Obama's behalf! Some people cheated and were able to successfully vote more than 10 times (one man admitting to 17 votes from himself for Obama). A special thank you to the Black Panther Party members who stood outside voting booths intimidating voters. A massive landslide is a huge overstatement.
“It started when they claimed he was a secret Muslim, and — at the same time — that he was a member of a black nationalist church that hated white people. Then, once these arguments were rejected and Obama won…”
Wait wait wait…When did we find out that he did NOT go to a black church that hated white people? He went to that “church” for 20 years and considered Wright as a mentor and didn't hear any of the angry rants that the whole world has now seen come from that man in that building with the fellow members attending?
“…they began to argue he was born in Kenya and secretly smuggled into the United States as a baby…here’s his birth certificate, here’s a picture of his mother heavily pregnant in Hawaii, here’s the announcement of his birth in the local Hawaiian paper — can pierce this conviction.”
You'll focus on that stupid argument rather than the real issues at hand. Republicans MOSTLY griped about him pushing socialism, making empty promises, spending trillions in his first few months in office, and not knowing his own bills.
“This trend has reached its apotheosis this summer with the Republican Party claiming en masse that Obama wants to set up “death panels” to euthanize the old and disabled.”
Look, we all know that the “end of life counseling” is actually end of CARE counseling. It's counseling for the old, the sick, the parents of the retarded and handicapped that will be required by the government to try and get the citizens to say, “You're right, I've only got this long to live (or can't work and contribute to society due to handicap), so I shouldn't waste the American taxpayer's dollars on healthcare because I can't do anything to give back to them. I'll refuse it and just die in 6 months without medicine or treatment.” THAT is why they are called death panels. THEY will decide ultimately who gets care and who doesn't. You have a kid with autism? Sorry to hear that. Can they work? No? Well, we can't get him treatment.
“The US is the only major industrialized country that does not provide regular healthcare to all its citizens. Instead, they are required to provide for themselves — and 50 million people can’t afford the insurance.”
And somehow we have the best care in the world! People come HERE for care. WE have the highest survival rates in everything. It is illegal in the US to deny care to someone who can't afford it when it is a serious issue. You get in a car wreck and have a severed artery and no health care, you will still get the best care in the world, hands down. And where did you get your number for the uninsured? It is the highest number I've ever seen quoted (next to 43,000,000–out of which at least 15,000,000 are illegal immigrants and many more CHOOSE not to have health care [mostly young adults], just as I chose not to have it for over a year after I graduated from college).
I'm done reading. If the beginning of the article sucks this much, the rest will surely spiral into a load of lies, exaggerations, and half-truths. I hope you didn't actually get PAID to write this….
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I would love to share this article, but the editor needs to take one more look at it for spelling and grammar issues.
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http://www.independent.com/news/2009/sep/06/wha...
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Please enlighten me. It's obvious this writer is a hoser.
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Your little assumptive one-liners don't make you sound intelligent but rather make you sound like you're either scared to say your point because you think it might be buried or you don't know your point. If you support Obama, it's probably the latter.
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What's obvious is that you have never stepped out of this country or even into the real world. Take a visit to Europe and see how much worse our healthcare system is than theirs, instead of listening to the propaganda. I used to work for the insurance companies, I had to quit in good conscience, I couldn't sleep at night with the atrocities that were being committed to gain profit.
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I actually studied abroad in college at the University of New South Wales in Australia for 6 months. Believe it or not, my roommate there who was studying abroad from NY died of a perforated stomach due to ulcers. She was 20 years old. She did get immediate help when she collapsed, but I can't help but think that she would have gotten better help in the US. She survived the surgery and was recovering for four days and then died when the medicines she was on made her liver fail. Her parents had to come and retrieve her body and belongings. While abroad on that 6 months, I also went to New Zealand and Fiji. I have also been on MEDICAL mission trips to Zambia, Madagascar, Zimbabwe, Botswana, and South Africa. Thank you for trying to pin me down with a stereotype! Some people have traveled the world and seen unbelievable governments and health care systems. I'm only 23 and have seen a LOT of things. I have seen people with their eyeballs on the outside of their skull with dirt on them. I have seen people with leprosy, AIDS, exposed organs and bone, starving to death, cancer rotting their bodies. Of course, the places I saw those terrible things are not the same as the US. They were in the African countries. But Australia, Britian, and many of our other allies are similar to us. Did you know that American women have a 63% chance of living at least five years after a cancer diagnosis compared to only 56% for European women? And American men have a 66% chance compared to only 47% of European men. THAT'S INCREDIBLE AND UNDENIABLE! And it's because we can't be denied care and we don't have to wait in a huge line. In the US, 85% of women between ages 25 to 64 have regular pap smears as compared to only 58% of women in the same age range in Great Britain. EARLY DETECTION IS THE KEY BUT THE GOVT DOES COVER IT OFTEN ENOUGH!!!! Pull your head out of the sand and wake up. The government can't run anything right and you're wanting to trust them with your LIFE. This is not what government is for. And next time you think you can pin someone down with a stupid stereotype, try to realize that you've only read a single very SHORT blog about her view on a stupid article and know nothing about her life history, goals, achievements, and ideals.
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I am an American and I am insulted by this article. You have greatly underestimated the level of ignorance and stupidity in this great country. We are the greatest country in the history of countries and we are also the greatest of the stupidest and most ignorant people ever. Love it or leave it, Jack
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Excellent article! For awhile there, I thought I was the only one who saw these things about the Republican party! It's getting very unnerving to watch them whip themselves up into a fear-mongering paranoia driven hysteria. It used to be funny….now it's just sad…and more than a little frightening.
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Wow thanks for this nice read.
I'm from Germany (Europe, I might add for some Americans) and the American right is scaring the living shit out of me. Zombies, seriously, completely detached from reality.
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Those statistics apply to the rich who can afford medical care, right spad? Get a grip.
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Funniest article EVER. Especially at a time when Libs are in “Do as Obama says or you're evil” mode.
I think any person who legitimately believes a person can be elected as president in this day and age with out identification deserves to be called a cultist, since they are willing to believe any kind of drivel that is spouted out by other cultists.
http://www.staffinpower.com
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